tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post1007920175236052803..comments2023-10-24T05:35:00.084-05:00Comments on SoulPastor: UnitySoulPastorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-8889013647906079632008-01-28T11:40:00.000-06:002008-01-28T11:40:00.000-06:00Looks like this has generated quite a response! He...Looks like this has generated quite a response! Here are my 2 cents on the original question about methodology causing division where theology is shared. Sorry, this ended up being long.<BR/><BR/>This example is really simplistic, but let's say that congregation X and congregation Y are fairly alike in theology. On two points in particular, there would be no argument between these hypothetical Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03089522784450627549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-71981107349606022312008-01-25T15:50:00.000-06:002008-01-25T15:50:00.000-06:00Could the study of Culture and the Study of God be...Could the study of Culture and the Study of God be simlar [theology]? ... If we are really honest, we will find God at work amidst culture regardless of the efforts of the 'Church' would we not? <BR/>God is not removed from culture [eventhough some would like to think that]The script of culture will have markers that point to Him. The Scriptures help us interpret those cultural markers and say Markimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11657285985843078423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-86914427663104667002008-01-24T18:37:00.000-06:002008-01-24T18:37:00.000-06:00When I went to school I learned a bunch of theorie...When I went to school I learned a bunch of theories and concepts that form a foundation for and inform the decisions I make at work. It also helps me understand some of the things that are happening around me. I don't even think about the names of the theories anymore. <BR/><BR/>Some things are pretty constant and don't change. However I know that the students that are in university right nowMistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256786360048614849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-91745867976782437642008-01-23T21:31:00.000-06:002008-01-23T21:31:00.000-06:00Dancing With God When I meditated on the word Gu...Dancing With God <BR/><BR/>When I meditated on the word Guidance,<BR/><BR/> I kept seeing 'dance' at the end of the word <BR/><BR/>And I remember reading that doing God's will is a lot like dancing. <BR/><BR/>When two people try to lead, nothing feels right. <BR/><BR/>The movement doesn't flow with the music, <BR/><BR/>And everything is quite uncomfortable and jerky.<BR/><BR/>When one personAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-30330266519460923652008-01-23T10:27:00.000-06:002008-01-23T10:27:00.000-06:00I am in my office going through a bunch of notes e...I am in my office going through a bunch of notes etc, general house cleaning! <BR/><BR/>Anyway, I came across a quote here, and as per usual, I do not know who said it...I never write that part down...So, let's give credit to the Holy Spirit and He can collect those royalties....<BR/><BR/>ANYWAY, here it is...<BR/><BR/>"When we pit our faith against our culture, we condemn the people we are SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-30294041471309853102008-01-23T10:06:00.000-06:002008-01-23T10:06:00.000-06:00as long as our heart is right when we bowl.. (ahe...as long as our heart is right when we bowl.. (ahem...dance), that's all that matters.... <BR/>As for "God fighting our battles"... I'm not sure how that would really look. I think that just standing firm in what you believe is important, and trusting that either God will speak to you if you need to change something - or speak to others about their motives for being critical of your choices...lilmisssunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669942275343154364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-5538858213764927422008-01-22T23:41:00.000-06:002008-01-22T23:41:00.000-06:00Also, Anonymous. Totally agree that some people h...Also, Anonymous. Totally agree that some people have a strong faith and can expound their faith on personal convictions. To relate, just because you have a strong opinion doesn't mean it comes from God. (we all need to check ourselves about our convictions)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-18805787982224892042008-01-22T23:36:00.000-06:002008-01-22T23:36:00.000-06:00Motives...good point. We can not judge someone's ...Motives...good point. We can not judge someone's heart.<BR/>It disturbs me to see mudslinging among believers and judgementalism. Does this elevate "our" position, or just drag the Church down (especially in the non-believers' eyes). But, sometimes it's hard to let God fight our battles (when you alone know your motives). <BR/><BR/> Soulpastor - don't feel like you have to justify your actionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-23462173848719445552008-01-22T23:27:00.000-06:002008-01-22T23:27:00.000-06:00Oops, bad spelling, had to pull the response….Hey ...Oops, bad spelling, had to pull the response….<BR/><BR/>Hey Nony….got a handle or a name? Anyway, I obviously misunderstood!<BR/><BR/>I would have to agree with you that some people who sit in a church on a Sunday do not take the time for discovering GOD for themselves and have grabbed hold of things that at the time were meant for good but as society has changed they fail to see the necessity SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-64650043358232032832008-01-22T23:24:00.000-06:002008-01-22T23:24:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-88564545032756384842008-01-22T21:16:00.000-06:002008-01-22T21:16:00.000-06:00Markimus in response to your comment Seems like a ...Markimus <BR/>in response to your comment <BR/>Seems like a dull point? Not sure what at all you are saying with that question... Seems like you are trying to 'flush' out the motives of people as if that should indicate the value to what they are doing. Not worth the effort and all it really does is stir up the same 'my side your side' attitude.<BR/><BR/>My point was that maybe these people Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-55166912136394848932008-01-22T18:20:00.000-06:002008-01-22T18:20:00.000-06:00AnonymousYou asked “Why should different methodolo...Anonymous<BR/><BR/>You asked “Why should different methodology cause division and anger?” It does! We all have opinions of how to do things and methodology can be an issue for some people. <BR/><BR/>You said “People get hung up on tradition and "do's and don'ts" often because they really have not taken the time to read their bible, pray and get to know God.” I would have to disagree with you SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-83529953442996855482008-01-22T18:08:00.000-06:002008-01-22T18:08:00.000-06:00SunshineHere are some of my thoughts on theology.....Sunshine<BR/><BR/>Here are some of my thoughts on theology...<BR/><BR/>What is theology? Theology seems to be a bad word today. To many it communicates bigotry, arrogance, and exclusivism riddled with impracticality. For some people they will allow you to have your theology, just don’t let it be know with too much conviction that you actually believe it! You can have your beliefs just don’t push SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-35284761053424645992008-01-22T18:00:00.000-06:002008-01-22T18:00:00.000-06:00Some thoughts...SoulPastor ... I really love your ...Some thoughts...<BR/><BR/>SoulPastor ... I really love your use of 'bowling'... SOOO EDGY!!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Theology - Theo logic - thinking as God thinks. <BR/><BR/>I must admit that I adhere to a similar 'statement of beliefs' as soulpastor does... but there are some who would say I water down the truth and am straying from the tenets of my faith. To be honest, in my 'liberal/universalist'[Markimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11657285985843078423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-61125404289752047332008-01-22T14:19:00.000-06:002008-01-22T14:19:00.000-06:00If "theology" is a "system of religious beliefs" h...If "theology" is a "system of religious beliefs" having to do with the study of God...... then a having different methodology might mean that you interpret God/the bible differently and are then developing a different system of beliefs... surrounding God. <BR/>Using the bowling analogy... some don't go bowling because they understand it to be one thing (reflecting their theology - lilmisssunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669942275343154364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-74232734503836319272008-01-22T12:29:00.000-06:002008-01-22T12:29:00.000-06:00You said,"Here lies the problem: These 'few believ...You said,<BR/>"Here lies the problem: These 'few believers' wanted to impact society on a level that was once considered taboo...."<BR/><BR/>Did they intend to impact society or did they just want to bowl?!<BR/><BR/>I would also like to know what you understand theology to be. Why should different methodology cause division and anger unless a persons understanding of who God is and what he Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-68441951966164367582008-01-22T09:30:00.000-06:002008-01-22T09:30:00.000-06:00What's your definition of theology?What's your definition of theology?lilmisssunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669942275343154364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-91848962922640124782008-01-22T08:46:00.000-06:002008-01-22T08:46:00.000-06:00SunshineI would have to disagree with you. My theo...Sunshine<BR/><BR/>I would have to disagree with you. My theology is not different from many of my critics. We sign the same 'fundamental statement of belief' the issue is how that theology is lived out in our world today.SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-11927721029655875212008-01-22T08:40:00.000-06:002008-01-22T08:40:00.000-06:00My point is that I think your theology is differen...My point is that I think your theology is different. (explained by my previous post)lilmisssunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669942275343154364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-30500543930276633282008-01-22T08:32:00.000-06:002008-01-22T08:32:00.000-06:00AnonymousI would have to suggest that you reread t...Anonymous<BR/><BR/>I would have to suggest that you reread the previous posting Break the Rules? to get a better understanding of what is being implied here. With that in mind, here is an example:<BR/><BR/>In the past, some religious traditions taught their adherents that ‘good Christians’ do not go to the bowling lanes, because bowling and the ‘things that went on’ at the lanes where not ‘godly’SoulPastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16895899771239455942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-73463949389630590552008-01-22T08:01:00.000-06:002008-01-22T08:01:00.000-06:00The Oxford dictionary defines "theology" as "the s...The Oxford dictionary defines "theology" as "the study of God...a system of religious beliefs". My question is whether your theology is in fact the same as Arminianism and Calvinism etc... If we take Calvinism for example... The 5 key points being Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace and Perserverance of the Saints, and then add to it their idea that lilmisssunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669942275343154364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13902709.post-84347972485199388762008-01-21T23:28:00.000-06:002008-01-21T23:28:00.000-06:00How about an example? I totally don't get what yo...How about an example? I totally don't get what you are talking about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com